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Learning the Guitar

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What were the "Big Ideas" discussed in this session?

Pedagogy is the key, not the tools.  Best practices still apply.

 We must be willing to jump in with both feet (back to pool analogy) and be willing to make mistakes with all of this technology.

Learning isn't a spectator sport, like sitting on the side of the pool, because you can't learn that way.  Learning should be fun and the only way to have fun is to jump in and be involved in the learning process

We are poised in Adams 14 to initiate a "social epidemic" in teaching and learning for the 21st Century and beyond.

 

What were the "Takeaways" for you?

 Having an extensive support network can only improve teaching and learning

These tools allow our students' to cast a much larger net with their ideas, very powerful!  Students also now have a much larger group of "experts" to draw from when they are attempting to answer a question.

Since the amount of information is doubling every 72 hours, it isn't as important what a student learns, but how they learn, unlearn, and relearn.

We (Global Learners) have been given a unique opportunity to engage our students in content based learning using tools that fit in thier world and the world of the future.

 I see that a big take-away for me was that the task of coordinating all of these tools is compounded exponentially.  Along with the other daily requirements like taking attendance, sending and responding to memos, etc., I will be adding the tasks of setting up and putting away equipment, logging in and out, monitoring appropriate use by students, etc.  This is not impossible and when I get to that point I will see some benefit of having to take less time in planning lessons, and assessing student learning because it will be all done through the networks I will be working with.

What questions do you have as a result of this session that you would like answered?

How can administration lead implementation efforts?  We had four administrators attend extensive portions of the sessions this morning.  In addition, the Superintendent attended about 15 minutes. 

 

What policies or protocols should a district be considering when implementing new practices and tools?

 

What issues will teachers face in implementing these technolgies?  The sheer volume of resources to research to decide what is most appropriate for my classroom / grade level.  Also, reticence by other teachers to try new technologies (a wiki requires participation to be collaborative).

 

How does one continue to focus on pedagogy when keeping up with all of these tools takes so much time?

 

If twitter is such a waste of time, why do I keep tweeting?  Is there any real value to twitter in the classroom?

 

How can we encourage students to take ownership in this endeavor?  If I am overwhelmed, and there are a large number of kids who could be really intimidated by all of this technology and the "globalness" of what we are touching on.

 

How ready are we as educators to allow students to take more control of their learning and how they learn?

 

 

 

Chatcast

 

This chatcast covers this session and includes the "post show" that preceeded the next one, Whiplash!

 

9:45:12 AM Terry Freedman says: Brains haven't changed, but ways we use to learn have

 

9:45:16 AM Terry Freedman says: hi, Bud

 

9:45:30 AM Bud Hunt says: is audio available?

 

9:45:51 AM Terry Freedman says: I was wondering the same. I have audio, but not sure how to relay it to everyone else

 

9:46:03 AM Bud Hunt says: hmm . . .

 

9:46:20 AM Terry Freedman says: can u hear now?

 

9:46:48 AM Bud Hunt says: I can

 

9:46:48 AM Terry Freedman says: I tried making it a conference call

 

9:46:49 AM Bud Hunt says: thanks!

 

9:46:55 AM Terry Freedman says: you can hear it?

 

9:46:56 AM Claudia Ceraso says: I am listening. Good audio.

 

9:46:59 AM Terry Freedman says: great!

 

9:47:00 AM David Jakes says: terry hold on

 

9:47:00 AM Bud Hunt says: sounds great

 

9:47:32 AM David Jakes says: terry, can you call me again

 

9:47:47 AM Bud Hunt says: sounds incredibly great for a conference call

 

9:47:56 AM Terry Freedman says: it's coming up as not an option, David

 

9:48:09 AM Bud Hunt says: should be able to ring him now

 

9:48:19 AM Bud Hunt says: Hi, darren!

 

9:49:29 AM David Jakes says: not in, help!

 

9:49:38 AM David Jakes says: sorry, was helping someone, couldnt get to it fast enough

 

9:52:03 AM Bud Hunt says: Should I hang up so that David can get in?

 

9:52:21 AM *** Terry Freedman added Emily Taylor, Jon Fisher, Jeff Lewis, Kelly Schwichtenberg, Joseph Miller, Dave Tarwater, Tonia Johnson to this chat

 

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9:52:51 AM Terry Freedman says: David J, I'll relay what's being said. I can't seem to add u

 

9:52:53 AM Bud Hunt says: Darren's reporting that David won't be able to hear - so it's up to those of us who can to keep him posted

 

9:53:24 AM *** Joseph Miller added conniel.vigil, Dave Tarwater, drewpalmerwsu, Jennifer Skrobela, Jeremy Schriner, tdeaguero to this chat

 

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9:53:27 AM Bud Hunt says: Darren: the purpose here is to leverage the backchannel - ask questions, embrace being overwhelmed, seek further clarification, etc

 

9:53:48 AM Bud Hunt says: hello, everyone!

 

9:53:59 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Hi!

 

9:54:10 AM David Jakes says: hello darren

 

9:54:13 AM Joseph Miller says: Hello and welcome

 

9:54:34 AM Bud Hunt says: greetings from Longmont, CO

 

9:54:42 AM Bud Hunt says: how's the workshop going?

 

9:54:51 AM *** Joseph Miller added Regina Stewart to this chat

 

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9:55:36 AM Kelly Schwichtenberg says: The workshop is going great. I have never used Skype, but it is a lot of fun!

 

9:55:56 AM Bud Hunt says: Big learning curve - but a handy tool.

 

9:55:59 AM *** Terry Freedman added john.protsman to this chat

 

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9:56:06 AM Emily Taylor says: I've never thought about using Skype like this before!

 

9:56:09 AM Claudia Ceraso says: I see 19 people so far in this chat. Are we all remote? Or are there people from the f2f session here too?

 

9:56:31 AM Bud Hunt says: looks like most are from Adams - in the f2f.

 

9:56:43 AM Bud Hunt says: hearing lots of excitement in the room as folks connect to the chat.

 

9:56:48 AM Jeff Lewis says: Hello...

 

9:56:52 AM Bud Hunt says: hello, jeff.

 

9:56:55 AM Jennifer Skrobela says: Hi everyone! It's kinda funny to chat w/ you since we are sitting in the same room!

 

9:56:56 AM john.protsman says: sweet I'm here

 

9:57:33 AM john.protsman says: Hello Jeff, I heard you're close to Commerce City

 

9:57:37 AM *** Joseph Miller added Jill Minzak, Jennifer Svihlik to this chat

 

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9:57:42 AM David Jakes says: @Jennifer...thats the idea, cool huh?

 

9:57:48 AM john.protsman says: welcome jill

 

9:58:02 AM Jennifer Skrobela says: I need to leave the chat for a meeting - I

 

9:58:03 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: What chat is this?

 

9:58:05 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Just a thought. Although we all have the audio, keep the "topic sentence" coming so that we see some context to the chatcast once in the wiki.

 

9:58:08 AM Regina Stewart says: this is the right one jen

 

9:58:20 AM tdeaguero says: Hi everybody I just got here.

 

9:58:21 AM Jennifer Skrobela says: See ya in a few!

 

9:58:42 AM tdeaguero says: Have a good day

 

9:58:42 AM Bud Hunt says: Good idea, Claudia.

 

9:58:46 AM Terry Freedman says: Is there anyone else I havem added?

 

9:58:46 AM *** Emily Taylor added samara.williams to this chat

 

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9:58:48 AM Dave Tarwater says: tools are just tools, what tools we choose and how we use them for teaching and learning should be the focus

 

9:58:58 AM *** samara.williams can't be added to this chat due to his/her privacy settings

 

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9:59:26 AM *** Tonia Johnson added wrobinson72 to this chat

 

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9:59:41 AM Jill Minzak says: Just checking to see if this is working.?.?.?

 

9:59:46 AM Bud Hunt says: @ Dave - Yes - the trick is having enough tools in the box for when you need them.

 

9:59:47 AM Terry Freedman says: Hi Jill

 

9:59:54 AM Bud Hunt says: It's working just fine, Jill.

 

10:00:07 AM *** Joseph Miller added kathy.littlejohn1 to this chat

 

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10:00:13 AM wrobinson72 says: I don't fee so left out now...ahh

 

10:00:27 AM Jill Minzak says: Welcome Wesley

 

10:00:53 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Dave @Bud Toolbox + network

 

10:01:05 AM *** Terry Freedman added cabrunel to this chat

 

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10:01:22 AM Terry Freedman says: I can't see everyone who should be here

 

10:01:43 AM *** Joseph Miller added penny.j.bortner to this chat

 

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10:01:45 AM john.protsman says: Terry who are you looking for?

 

10:02:08 AM Jennifer Skrobela says: Ok, I'm trying to multi-task...help!!!!!

 

10:02:13 AM Terry Freedman says: I think someone Palmserston contacted me, but can't find him now!

 

10:02:23 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: did you make it to your meeting Jen?

 

10:02:31 AM Jennifer Skrobela says: I'm here

 

10:02:36 AM john.protsman says: Hmm, I don't think he's apart of our room

 

10:02:37 AM john.protsman says: Yeah Jen

 

10:03:03 AM *** Terry Freedman added janstearns, jwbrown420 to this chat

 

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10:03:12 AM drewpalmerwsu says: I'm here - Andrew Palmer

 

10:03:16 AM David Jakes says: hello district6!

 

10:03:23 AM Joseph Miller says: Challenge Darren's ideas

 

10:03:24 AM janstearns says: Hi David!

 

10:03:31 AM Joseph Miller says: Add some meat to your challenge

 

10:03:34 AM jwbrown420 says: Hey Andrew

 

10:03:36 AM Bud Hunt says: ohh -- reasoned and spirited argument and debate.

 

10:03:39 AM Bud Hunt says: I like it.

 

10:04:36 AM john.protsman says: So is this a really good forum for students to communicate to eachother during a presentation?

 

10:04:37 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Hey Jesse

 

10:04:52 AM john.protsman says: Ah, cool we can save the chat file

 

10:05:00 AM Bud Hunt says: I've used chat with students for a similar purpose - it's worked well.

 

10:05:00 AM Terry Freedman says: omg, I thought I'd lost all this

 

10:05:12 AM john.protsman says: Homework to highlight the questions not answered and bring them tomorrow

 

10:05:13 AM *** Terry Freedman added Sharon Peters to this chat

 

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10:05:48 AM *** Dave Tarwater added callie.brownlee to this chat

 

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10:05:53 AM Claudia Ceraso says: "The end of the conversation is the beginning" I just want to make sure I remember that.

 

10:05:54 AM wrobinson72 says: So, this chat will really never end...

 

10:06:07 AM David Jakes says: @ I've got it Terry

 

10:06:07 AM Kelly Schwichtenberg says: Bud, Tell us more about how you used this with students!

 

10:06:15 AM David Jakes says: Chatcasting rocks

 

10:06:16 AM Tonia Johnson says: b/c learning never really ends ;)

 

10:06:28 AM Terry Freedman says: this can become a permanaent record

 

10:06:46 AM Bud Hunt says: I taught high school language arts and was using a chatroom for conversation in the classroom while conferencing with students -- everyone could ask a question of the class at any time.

 

10:07:10 AM David Jakes says: @Darren,@Terry-I have pictures of the Chat from my workshop in Portage, Wisconsin

 

10:07:10 AM john.protsman says: nice, thanks for the info budtheteacher

 

10:07:22 AM Joseph Miller says: Bud, That is a neat idea. What worked best?

 

10:07:28 AM janstearns says: That offers immediate feedback and fosters collaboration amond the students.

 

10:07:36 AM Bud Hunt says: sometimes, students got silly - but usually, they stuck to the topic - I never did the after chat piece that Darren's using with you - I'm curious to see how that goes.

 

10:07:50 AM Terry Freedman says: the link to Grace's interview is: http://terry-freedman.org.uk/artman/publish/article_1137.php

 

10:08:01 AM Bud Hunt says: I used a chatroom that was archivable - and we all knew that I was monitoring the chat.

 

10:08:10 AM Terry Freedman says: I'm recording this too, so it could become a podcast, or a slideshare sound track

 

10:08:19 AM Bud Hunt says: excellent, terry

 

10:08:24 AM Dave Tarwater says: thanks terry

 

10:08:34 AM Terry Freedman says: That's the theory!

 

10:08:36 AM Terry Freedman says: LOL

 

10:08:38 AM Joseph Miller says: I recorded Darren's intro and I will load to youtube

 

10:08:39 AM john.protsman says: Terry what software are you using to record this?

 

10:08:40 AM Terry Freedman says: my pleasure

 

10:08:47 AM Terry Freedman says: PowerGramo

 

10:08:51 AM Claudia Ceraso says: I just bumped on Terry's issues with back-channel communication http://terry-freedman.org.uk/artman/publish/article_1122.php

 

10:08:59 AM Sharon Peters says: does anyone agree with Miss Manners, that chatcasting is boorishly rude - much like heckling??

 

10:09:14 AM Bud Hunt says: it's important to fiddle around with tools so that you know what's available to you

 

10:09:20 AM Joseph Miller says: The key is NOT the tools, but the use

 

10:09:23 AM tdeaguero says: Did Iget kicked out?

 

10:09:26 AM Terry Freedman says: Claudia, they reflect my own limitations to some extent, but I do believe there are classroom management issues to be addressed

 

10:09:34 AM tdeaguero says: No I'm still here.

 

10:09:39 AM Bud Hunt says: @sharon: Nope. I disagree with Miss Manners -- using the backchannel is the polite way to side-talk.

 

10:09:40 AM *** Joseph Miller added Fred Kreienkamp to this chat

 

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10:09:43 AM Terry Freedman says: yiou're here!

 

10:09:45 AM Dave Tarwater says: so true, we must not sit at the pool's edge, but rather jump right in and splash

 

10:09:56 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @sharon I am in Buenos Aires, chatcasting is not rude. It's my way of being there. Closing up would be kind of rude.

 

10:09:58 AM Terry Freedman says: Grace is Shaorn's daughter. Sharton is in this chat

 

10:10:03 AM Terry Freedman says: Sharon*

 

10:10:12 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Of course I imagine you refer to chatcasting inside a classroom

 

10:10:21 AM Terry Freedman says: I do

 

10:10:23 AM Bud Hunt says: @Dave - we need to jump in and splash before we go with students -- that way, we're focused on the students when we take them into the pool - and no one drowns.

 

10:11:06 AM Dave Tarwater says: ah yes, another duty assigned to teachers - lifeguard, we can do it!!

 

10:11:39 AM Terry Freedman says: To people who are able to contact people in the audience, when you add me as a skype contact, you also have to make yrself visible

 

10:11:45 AM Terry Freedman says: so I can add u to the chat

 

10:11:46 AM Bud Hunt says: heh - not to take the metaphor too far -- but yeah, we're lifeguards. If there aren't any lifeguards, the administrators close the pool. And that's unacceptable.

 

10:11:48 AM wrobinson72 says: I find this sort of discussion very engaging- I know my 5th graders would eat up this kind of interaction

 

10:12:17 AM Bud Hunt says: @Wesley - say more - will our 5th graders be able to follow both the chat and the conversation? I struggle with that sometimes - and know my high schoolers do.

 

10:12:26 AM Terry Freedman says: For those who can't hear, someone is playing a guitar (folkish)

 

10:12:26 AM Bud Hunt says: oops - your, not our

 

10:12:27 AM Joseph Miller says: I think Alan November would love the lifeguard metaphor

 

10:12:34 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Great for those shy students who may not want to raise their hand and speak in front of the class but still want and need their ideas heard

 

10:12:58 AM Jeff Lewis says: I agree wrobinson, but I wonder about my 4th graders, will there slow typing make this process too laborious?

 

10:12:58 AM tdeaguero says: Who is this paying the guitar? Where can I get this recording?

 

10:13:08 AM wrobinson72 says: Some will sink a little in our metaphorical pool, but most have had enough practice to really thrive (I hope- I'll mee t the new group soon)

 

10:13:12 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: Maybe on youtube

 

10:13:23 AM Terry Freedman says: tdeaguero, Darren will tell us. I will see if I can find it

 

10:13:34 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Chatcast in the classroom. I struggle with the idea of multitasking. What's the skill we are trying to develop? What's the aim?

 

10:13:36 AM tdeaguero says: thx

 

10:13:48 AM Terry Freedman says: look here: http://acsd14.pbwiki.com/Learning+the+Guitar

 

10:14:07 AM Bud Hunt says: @Claudia - I think one of the skills is active learning. Engaging ideas as they enter your brain. A new way to take notes, perhaps?

 

10:14:22 AM Sharon Peters says: @claudia - think it has to be a certain kind of class - lecture?? my daughter points out how she can seek out those who are learning at her level for peer help and understanding

 

10:14:34 AM Tonia Johnson says: @bud-- I know I learn more when I

 

10:14:50 AM Tonia Johnson says: sorry...am able to contribute..have my thoughts heard

 

10:14:51 AM Emily Taylor says: This would be challenging for my third graders also: they are slow typers! Perhaps this would motivate them to become faster and give them time to practice.

 

10:15:00 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Oh yeah, great scaffolding tool, this chatcasting

 

10:15:08 AM wrobinson72 says: I think the students- 4th, 5th, most ages- if they are engaged, they will mutlitask without thinking twice, sort of like playing polo in the pool

 

10:15:09 AM Joseph Miller says: T Kuhn...scientific revolutions

 

10:15:11 AM Sharon Peters says: @bud and claudia - yes active learning - mind is engaged as I type, read others and explore ideas

 

10:15:12 AM Bud Hunt says: @Tonia - Yeah. Me, too.

 

10:15:20 AM Terry Freedman says: Thomas Kuhn: Scientific Revolutions: paradigm shift

 

10:15:21 AM Bud Hunt says: the trick is listening and thinking and writing together.

 

10:15:23 AM Joseph Miller says: t Kuhn says that revolutions are a matter of time, momentum

 

10:15:25 AM Dave Tarwater says: @emily, start small with the little guys

 

10:15:31 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Bud. Right. Also brainstorming. Multiple lines of thought and conversation will out!

 

10:15:43 AM Terry Freedman says: he actually talked about a tipping point, tho not in those terms, if u think about it

 

10:15:50 AM Tonia Johnson says: how hard would it be to tak while everyone is typing? and not looking at me...

 

10:15:51 AM Joseph Miller says: yes, tipping point

 

10:16:05 AM Bud Hunt says: malcolm gladwell's book _The Tipping Point_ is a really interesting read.

 

10:16:07 AM Joseph Miller says: when more people begin to agree with an idea it will take hol

 

10:16:07 AM Terry Freedman says: what do u mean, Tonia? as a presenter?

 

10:16:29 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren is taking us on a tour of his class blogs, to show his methodology

 

10:16:43 AM Tonia Johnson says: @ Terry --Yes...It would make me a little scard that I'd lost them or need to move on

 

10:16:59 AM Bud Hunt says: I really like the vocabulary/language tool on Darren's blog.

 

10:17:07 AM Joseph Miller says: answertips

 

10:17:16 AM Dave Tarwater says: @tonia, I think it will take some practice getting used to this modality

 

10:17:21 AM Claudia Ceraso says: An innovative way of presenting. We'll have to come to terms with change. It might happen anyway... people not following what you say and going to some inner train of thought we'll never have access to. Transparency is another objective.

 

10:17:22 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Yeah, Joe showed us this on his blog as well in earlier trainings

 

10:17:40 AM Tonia Johnson says: its a great tool for ELLs

 

10:17:48 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren'

 

10:17:51 AM Terry Freedman says: s blog: http://adifference.blogspot.com

 

10:18:09 AM Joseph Miller says: check out also the GL blog: http://principianteglobal.blogspot.com/

 

10:18:18 AM Terry Freedman says: scroll down for his class blogs

 

10:18:20 AM Bud Hunt says: I guess as a teacher I'd rather have students "zoning out" conversing about ideas and conributing in ways that I can see than just looking at me and feigning interest.

 

10:18:25 AM Bud Hunt says: So typing doesn't bother me.

 

10:18:33 AM Terry Freedman says: eg http://am40sw07.blogspot.com/

 

10:18:34 AM janstearns says: I think if there's dialogue about the presentation, it can help some learners stay more focused, even with the backchannel appearing to be a distraction

 

10:19:00 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Maybe letting your students know you will view everything that has been typed later on will keep them on track and paying attention, instead of just "chatting"

 

10:19:05 AM Regina Stewart says: How do we embed that vocab piece on the blogs?

 

10:19:08 AM Terry Freedman says: @ Bud: I recall once turning to the wall and asking the question, when I got no response from class

 

10:19:12 AM Joseph Miller says: people familiar with "scribes"?

 

10:19:15 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Bud They feel it is out of respect to feign interest. Good if we focus on manner; but poor for learning.

 

10:19:20 AM Sharon Peters says: yes, I agree with drew - has to be some accountability

 

10:19:27 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: not really....

 

10:19:29 AM Jennifer Skrobela says: isn't that a csap accommodation???

 

10:19:31 AM Sharon Peters says: so that we know they were not playing games and pretending to be chatting

 

10:19:36 AM Bud Hunt says: Yeah - being polite isn't always a useful learning activity, though.

 

10:20:04 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Bud We'll have to strike a balance. Another teacher role emerging?

 

10:20:07 AM Joseph Miller says: @Bud I think the polite versus useful is the key

 

10:20:12 AM Dave Tarwater says: the scribing sounds good

 

10:20:12 AM Sharon Peters says: this could foster the skill of note-taking - which is usually a singular experience - and not done particularly well by most young students

 

10:20:16 AM Bud Hunt says: CSAP= Colorado Student Assessment Program (for those of you who aren't Colorado folks - those're our state tests)

 

10:20:20 AM Joseph Miller says: @Claudia any ideas on striking the balance

 

10:20:24 AM *** Terry Freedman added coordinatortwo to this chat

 

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10:20:32 AM Bud Hunt says: @Claudia - Yet another role. Golly.

 

10:20:49 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Joseph I am just thinkiing out aloud with you. Don't have all the answers ;)

 

10:20:55 AM Terry Freedman says: What do people think of Darren's methods, eg using scribes in the classroom?

 

10:20:59 AM Bud Hunt says: BOB=blogging on blogging=metacognition

 

10:21:04 AM Bud Hunt says: i love that

 

10:21:22 AM Claudia Ceraso says: I'll try. Keeping priorities in mind during all activities.

 

10:21:27 AM Terry Freedman says: metacognition is big in the UK

 

10:21:35 AM Bud Hunt says: that's one of the biggest values of blogging to me -- being able to see the thinking -- having the learner show their work

 

10:21:36 AM Joseph Miller says: the scrive is what attracted me to Darren's work

 

10:21:38 AM Sharon Peters says: having chief scribes on a rotating practice is a great idea - puts the responsibility on the shoulders of the students

 

10:21:45 AM Terry Freedman says: how do you deal with kids who can't spell?

 

10:21:45 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Just reviewing these notes after a lesson could show who is getting it, who needs more instruction, etc.

 

10:21:56 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: Great reteaching tool...

 

10:21:58 AM Tonia Johnson says: @Bud--- you totally stole my thought...I love the idea of using the blog as a metaconative reflective tool...

 

10:22:19 AM Dave Tarwater says: awesome, students writing their own textbook

 

10:22:19 AM Regina Stewart says: What if they don't scribe when they are supposed to??

 

10:22:19 AM Tonia Johnson says: It would make them more responsible for thier own learning

 

10:22:23 AM Sharon Peters says: yes, reflecting on writing (blogging on blogging) is a great way to foster metacognition - leads to better self-regulation fo learning

 

10:22:25 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: Are we going to learn how to set this up for our students?

 

10:22:30 AM Terry Freedman says: Andrew, that is true, but there would be a management issue, so may be better to do it as a class activity, as Darren said to me last nite, or to do it on an exceptions basis

 

10:22:37 AM Bud Hunt says: @Tonia -- It's not my idea, either -- but it's a really, really good one. I learned so much blogging with my students.

 

10:22:48 AM Terry Freedman says: ie only go thru with very good or very poor students

 

10:22:50 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Great point - students love to "one-up" each other, creating much better work. A little competition never hurt anyone

 

10:23:05 AM Terry Freedman says: @Jennifer: Hopefully Darren will do so

 

10:23:19 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Terry. My students learn English as a foreing language. Spelling will be an issue. The speed required by a chatcast favours fluency, not accuracy. I can imagine school authorities wondering how to "account" for the pedagogy behind this.

 

10:23:23 AM wrobinson72 says: This may be addressed later, but is there any sort of Skype spam that our students could get (or other types of spam on other chat networks) that we should be on the lookout for?

 

10:23:26 AM Joseph Miller says: colorado standard 2: write for a "variety" of audiences... what is more variable than the world?

 

10:23:28 AM Bud Hunt says: @Jennifer: If he doesn't, there're a ton of folks out there blogging about how they've done it.

 

10:23:30 AM Sharon Peters says: I found with my students that raising that bar thru exposure to students' blogs made a HUGE difference in level of writing - particularly with my weaker students

 

10:23:32 AM Terry Freedman says: but also add him as a skype contact, and David Jakes, Bud, and Sharon Peters, for help

 

10:23:37 AM drewpalmerwsu says: @Terry - great point, what a great review session for the day after a tough lesson

 

10:23:46 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: THX

 

10:23:50 AM Terry Freedman says: @wriobinson:

 

10:23:57 AM Sharon Peters says: @wesley - be sure to set private settings - because yes, that could happen

 

10:24:01 AM Callie Brownlee says: This is a great resource for engaging in "Global Professional Development" conversations. Finding out first hand what's working... in schools, classrooms... around the world.

 

10:24:05 AM Tonia Johnson says: I feel like I've just scratched surface on blogging...I just have them answering questions, but if they can reflect on their learning and work with eachother, that creates the kind of learning and interaction necessary for REAL learning to take place

 

10:24:11 AM Terry Freedman says: there is an issue with skypecasting to some extent: anyone can join in I think

 

10:24:13 AM Claudia Ceraso says: "students helping each other out"

 

10:24:13 AM wrobinson72 says: thanks- forgot about that

 

10:24:19 AM Bud Hunt says: yes -- would be happy to help you set things up -- or at least answer a question or two -- although Darren's the master - my blog: http://www/budtheteacher.com

 

10:24:29 AM Claudia Ceraso says: "takes away pressure from the teacher"

 

10:24:31 AM Bud Hunt says: @Tonia: You're starting in a good place -- just add in as you can.

 

10:24:34 AM Terry Freedman says: Thanks, Bud

 

10:24:48 AM Joseph Miller says: I love the mentors idea

 

10:25:04 AM Joseph Miller says: what do the teachers think of the mentors

 

10:25:10 AM Bud Hunt says: You can use students in different classrooms and across your district as mentors for each other.

 

10:25:12 AM Dave Tarwater says: accessing experts regularly, seems only possible with 21st century tools, very cool and useful

 

10:25:20 AM Bud Hunt says: teachers and administrators, too.

 

10:25:21 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren has people who reads his students' blogs, especially retired teachers

 

10:25:32 AM Bud Hunt says: Parents, too.

 

10:25:36 AM Regina Stewart says: That is great differentiation that I may not have time for

 

10:25:37 AM Sharon Peters says: That's a terrific idea!

 

10:25:44 AM drewpalmerwsu says: what about using this in Grade Level meetings with fellow teachers - notetaking would not need to happen and all teachers' ideas are heard and given thought. No one person can dominate the conversation

 

10:25:50 AM Bud Hunt says: There are people, good people, who would like to help.

 

10:25:56 AM Bud Hunt says: Student teachers are a great resource, too.

 

10:25:58 AM Joseph Miller says: @andrew...I love it!

 

10:26:14 AM janstearns says: @Andrew - great idea to foster that sense of a professional learning community

 

10:26:17 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren just made the point that retired teachers contacted him, because of his professional blog: a good reason to have your own!

 

10:26:29 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Everyone knows one of those "outspoken" teacher on their team ;->

 

10:26:46 AM Dave Tarwater says: @joe and adrew - plus the conversations can all be archived for later review, study, revision

 

10:26:55 AM Sharon Peters says: a terrific role for retired teachers who still long for that access to students - some do not retire willingly!

 

10:26:59 AM Bud Hunt says: @Terry - another reason to have one is to learn, model and attempt to master what you're asking your students to do.

 

10:27:03 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: that's a great idea

 

10:27:04 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Principals could join from their office or other meeting...

 

10:27:10 AM Terry Freedman says: I agree Bud

 

10:27:16 AM Bud Hunt says: best professional development I've ever done - Darren's been my teacher for two plus years

 

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10:27:23 AM Emily Taylor says: @terry, how can you reach out with your own professional blog?

 

10:27:46 AM Terry Freedman says: Emily, my own experience is TEhlaati neb y fwrerietdmianng hsetrue.ff

 

10:27:51 AM Jeff Lewis says: Ss adding resources to a unit of inquiry is another great way for them to impact their learning, very powerful.

 

10:27:53 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Students love to see their teacher learning and exploring in their own blog. Motivation is contagious sometimes.

 

10:28:00 AM Sharon Peters says: I feel so privileged to have access to amazing, innovative teachers like Darren, Bud, Terry, etc. through the use of these tools!

 

10:28:36 AM Terry Freedman says: Emily, my experience is that by writing about stuff I am passionate about, people find me

 

10:28:39 AM Joseph Miller says: darren can share across manitobe because they use exactly the same curriculum across manitobe

 

10:28:42 AM Tonia Johnson says: so, i should have a professional blog and one for each of my classes

 

10:28:43 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Sharon Absolutely. Like-minded people are a great stimulus. So encouraging.

 

10:28:49 AM Terry Freedman says: Elaine (my wife) has an issue:

 

10:28:55 AM Bud Hunt says: @emily. A great way to start is by reading and commenting on others' blogs. Start your own, share the link when you comment, write honestly and openly about your practice. It takes time to develop a network - but it's worth it.

 

10:29:27 AM Bud Hunt says: Pick two or three colleagues at your training to start with you and to be your "blog buddies" - make a committment to read, write and comment together.

 

10:29:48 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Great point - the SmartBoard lets us preserve EVERYTHING we do in class

 

10:29:49 AM Emily Taylor says: Terry, I find that's true with my students also. When I share my passion for learning with them they really respond well to that.

 

10:29:51 AM drewpalmerwsu says: no more erasers

 

10:29:56 AM Terry Freedman says: I think it's great for fully able kids. What baout blind pupils/ or pupils who have phyical disabilites . Is there a mangement issue here?

 

10:30:01 AM Bud Hunt says: @Tonia - That's one way to do it -- but not the only way -- set it up how it manes the most sense for you.

 

10:30:15 AM Terry Freedman says: I also think it is important to be focused

 

10:30:18 AM Dave Tarwater says: global learners, you all have smartboards to try some of this preservation of student and class daily work

 

10:30:20 AM Bud Hunt says: oops - makes --

 

10:30:23 AM Claudia Ceraso says: As long as there is room for people to opt in/out of reading blogs or commenting. Good idea

 

10:30:28 AM drewpalmerwsu says: ... so that one kid that asks "I didnt get that thing you did 10 minutes ago", we can just move the slide back and there it still is

 

10:30:36 AM Terry Freedman says: I agree with Bud

 

10:30:37 AM Joseph Miller says: mypodcast.com

 

10:30:39 AM Bud Hunt says: @Dave - What's your global learner blog link again?

 

10:30:50 AM Joseph Miller says: garageband or audacity for us PC users

 

10:30:52 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren uses garageband to record podcasts

 

10:30:59 AM Terry Freedman says: I use audacity

 

10:31:05 AM drewpalmerwsu says: @Joe mypodcast.com is where we can post podcasts for free??

 

10:31:05 AM Terry Freedman says: but there are other tools

 

10:31:13 AM Joseph Miller says: I think so

 

10:31:17 AM Sharon Peters says: @Dave but my beef about saving everything for students using smartboards (which I have used for 3 years) is that the students now assume everything will be saved - why take notes or even pay attention?? Perhaps by having chatcasts, one can get around this

 

10:31:20 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Side note: I like the pace of this presentation and how Darren manages questions.

 

10:31:22 AM Terry Freedman says: Folks, let's focus on what Darren is talking about, but to summarise:

 

10:31:45 AM Bud Hunt says: got to run for a few - hope to be back soon -- be good to Darren.

 

10:31:53 AM Terry Freedman says: blogs are a good way of adding to learning, but there are management issues, and you have to think about inclousion issues too

 

10:32:01 AM Claudia Ceraso says: "reaching the limit of what is possible" Is that possible'

 

10:32:34 AM Terry Freedman says: Claudia, I think these tools are causing us to rethink what the limits of the possible are

 

10:32:38 AM Terry Freedman says: great point

 

10:33:04 AM drewpalmerwsu says: love the car analogy - we are still in the "stone age" with using this tools in education

 

10:33:16 AM Terry Freedman says: hyperlink and tags are the two most powertful technologies of recent times

 

10:33:19 AM drewpalmerwsu says: cant be afraid to make mistakes

 

10:33:27 AM Terry Freedman says: links make everyone your neighbour

 

10:33:40 AM coordinatortwo says: We are not limited by expectations set locally, your classroom or school. The standard is set by the blogging community

 

10:33:43 AM Terry Freedman says: tags allows u to organise info in any way that is meaningful for u

 

10:33:47 AM Terry Freedman says: -- Darren

 

10:34:00 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren is now explaining what an RSS feed is

 

10:34:07 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Darren explaining RSS

 

10:34:46 AM Terry Freedman says: This is alsso explained in the FREE ebook Coming of Age: An Introduction to the NEW Worldwide Web: www.ictineducation.org/db/web2

 

10:35:08 AM Regina Stewart says: homeworkcast?

 

10:35:12 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren is talking about Doug Belshaw;s work: uses RSS to push out homeworkrk to the kids

 

10:35:17 AM Jennifer Svihlik says: sounds cool??

 

10:35:19 AM Sharon Peters says: a great book and resource - really changed my teaching practices last year

 

10:35:19 AM coordinatortwo says: studycast

 

10:35:27 AM Terry Freedman says: yes: the kids subscribe to the homework

 

10:35:33 AM Sharon Peters says: great idea!

 

10:35:48 AM Regina Stewart says: they have to have access at home then?

 

10:35:49 AM Terry Freedman says: not if you dont want homewoirk!

 

10:36:03 AM coordinatortwo says: So, what makes it different from email group?

 

10:36:06 AM Terry Freedman says: not necessarily: they can log in at school, or local library

 

10:36:29 AM Terry Freedman says: the point is, everyone can get the homework even if they were absent from school

 

10:36:38 AM Claudia Ceraso says: email group has a moderator. You get everything they post. With RSS, you choose.

 

10:36:57 AM coordinatortwo says: you choose what you read.

 

10:37:03 AM Claudia Ceraso says: exactly.

 

10:37:10 AM Terry Freedman says: Jose:. you can subscribe to several blogs etc and access latest posts in one place, known as a RSS reader

 

10:37:22 AM Tonia Johnson says: teachers are the greatest thieves

 

10:37:24 AM Terry Freedman says: Claudia is correct

 

10:37:27 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Fosters student's autonomous decision: what, when and why subscribe.

 

10:37:53 AM coordinatortwo says: As a teacher tool, what does rss do for me?

 

10:37:56 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Teachers will have to pull, of course. Give up a bit of "control". Sadly?

 

10:38:33 AM Terry Freedman says: Doug Belshaw's blog: http://teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk/

 

10:38:42 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @coordinatortwo Believe me we wouldn't be talking and learning together here if I were not subscribed to Darren's blog!

 

10:39:09 AM coordinatortwo says: rss is all over the place; blogs, wikis. Where else are our students publishing content?

 

10:39:14 AM Claudia Ceraso says: That's just an example of how I use RSS

 

10:39:18 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren is talking about these issues: are these techniqies scalable?

 

10:39:57 AM Claudia Ceraso says: "moving from architect to gardener" metaphor

 

10:40:10 AM Terry Freedman says: Any questions from anyone?

 

10:40:33 AM coordinatortwo says: if it's there, do it.

 

10:40:47 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Another great metaphor - these blogs/sites are like a garden - dont water them, they die

 

10:41:00 AM Terry Freedman says: ooh, audio went funny

 

10:41:09 AM wrobinson72 says: You can get the water from the pool :)

 

10:41:13 AM coordinatortwo says: over water them they drown.

 

10:41:40 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Question: How does Darren manage students who are resisting the innovation? If they start posting less, or late...then what?

 

10:42:00 AM John Protsman says: For most of us this is very overwhelming, how do we maintian contact with everyone so we can have a list of resources?

 

10:42:12 AM janstearns says: I've often wondered that. I'm sure there are reluctant students.

 

10:42:32 AM coordinatortwo says: Question: Does making blogging part of a GRADE, take the fun away?

 

10:42:38 AM janstearns says: I think the fact that his students are accountable for the learning and teaching to others helps minimize this.

 

10:42:39 AM John Protsman says: Darren suggesting using one idea, but each of his has multiple ideas imbedded into one another

 

10:42:41 AM Dave Tarwater says: good question regarding student participation, we will find out from Darren before he leaves us

 

10:43:06 AM Claudia Ceraso says: reluctant or simply "late adopters". It's natural. Just wondering how other teachers solve it. I'm facing that in my wikified classroom nowadays ;)

 

10:43:15 AM Regina Stewart says: coming of age 2.0

 

10:43:33 AM Terry Freedman says: yes, I'm working on it now, and it will be out in september

 

10:43:36 AM wrobinson72 says: I plan on throwing a lot of different tech tools at my students and see aht sticks, and then maintain that over the school year -see what they buy in to

 

10:43:39 AM Jeff Lewis says: Is there an efficient way to find experts on skype? If we are studying the Solar System, how would my students find an expert on that subject?

 

10:43:58 AM Terry Freedman says: Jeff, I think you would have to find them thru other means

 

10:44:21 AM Callie Brownlee says: Would you use the RSS to gather/collect info for a specific topic??

 

10:44:33 AM Terry Freedman says: Callie, yes you can do that

 

10:44:35 AM Jeff Lewis says: @ Terry - back to building the network..

 

10:44:55 AM Terry Freedman says: I think Skype is a bit hit and miss for that

 

10:44:56 AM coordinatortwo says: Subscribing to RSS feeds helps in finding what is happening in the blogoshphere

 

10:45:06 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @wesley Sounds like a kind of "fly-fishing" technique. I am wondering how to create the *need* for the tool so that they adopt it more or less *naturally* as I did. Sort of informal teaching.

 

10:45:13 AM Terry Freedman says: I actually said to Darren last night, someone should invent an educational version of skype

 

10:45:14 AM coordinatortwo says: I meant search feeds

 

10:45:42 AM Terry Freedman says: Jose, yes you can do that. Google Alerts is a very easy option for that

 

10:45:52 AM coordinatortwo says: during NECC 2007 I subscibed to conference technorati tag and got great content

 

10:45:54 AM wrobinson72 says: @Claudia- good point. I'm not sure yet of the needs or skills of the students I will have this year

 

10:46:11 AM coordinatortwo says: taging our work helps also.

 

10:46:27 AM Terry Freedman says: yes, using delicious

 

10:46:53 AM coordinatortwo says: even suggesting standard tags goes a long way

 

10:47:19 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren has mentioned a number of people whose blogs are worth following up. He will have the links on the wiki I think

 

10:47:43 AM Claudia Ceraso says: I wonder whether it is possible to fully plan the introduction of these tools to students before actually meeting them. It's important to hear them talk about *their* use of the Internet and try and reach them.

 

10:47:51 AM Jeff Lewis says: tear down the walls wiki?

 

10:47:55 AM John Protsman says: So any thoughts to the connectivity our students have access to outside of our classroom doors? Darren gave the example of a student who was able to access information from home - it seems like dialup would not be fast enough for something like this

 

10:47:58 AM Terry Freedman says: http://acsd14.pbwiki.com

 

10:48:24 AM John Protsman says: scribepost hall of fame - is it a website

 

10:48:32 AM Sharon Peters says: @john, skype is surprisingly light - maxes out at 125 kps

 

10:48:32 AM Terry Freedman says: Clausia, you could use the reports like the Horizon Report to guide you

 

10:48:34 AM drewpalmerwsu says: I love this - a Hall of Fame - what kid wont want their scribe post there?

 

10:48:47 AM Terry Freedman says: and/or set up an online survey for them to complete before the first class

 

10:48:48 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Perfect

 

10:49:17 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren uses a Hall of Fame to showcase the best scribes of the semester

 

10:49:20 AM Dave Tarwater says: not 15 minutes of fame, but rather an archived legacy

 

10:49:28 AM Terry Freedman says: that's right Dave

 

10:49:39 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Yeah, and being voted in by their classmates... great idea

 

10:49:45 AM John Protsman says: @sharon - thanks. how did you find that info out?

 

10:49:49 AM Terry Freedman says: If u think about it, that could contribute to kids' leaving certificate

 

10:50:30 AM John Protsman says: @terry what's a "leaving certificate"?

 

10:50:46 AM Sharon Peters says: @john - I asked an expert - one of my "peeps" in my teacher social network - to measure for me because I wanted to show my IT admin that I could skype in the classroom without maxing out the bandwidth

 

10:51:11 AM Joseph Miller says: the animation done in smart software?

 

10:51:16 AM Terry Freedman says: I was using it as a generic term, eg e-portfolio, record of school achievement, testimonial: something a student could show to a potential employer

 

10:52:00 AM Durff says: great! thank you bunches terry

 

10:52:26 AM Terry Freedman says: someone has asked if it is an issue when a scribe makes a mathematical error

 

10:52:29 AM Joseph Miller says: is the blog the new textbook?

 

10:52:49 AM coordinatortwo says: perhaps the wiki not the blog

 

10:52:49 AM Sharon Peters says: I think wikis have the potential to be new textbook

 

10:53:00 AM Terry Freedman says: answer: Darren corrects it via a comment; kids point out error; also: is there a textbook that is error free?

 

10:53:00 AM Durff says: no, because everyone can check facts

 

10:53:03 AM John Protsman says: applework, and MS equation editor

 

10:53:04 AM janstearns says: I think it's a combination of all the tools

 

10:53:17 AM Terry Freedman says: Joseph, there is somethng called a blook:

 

10:53:18 AM coordinatortwo says: blog is for conversation and reflection

 

10:53:20 AM Durff says: no text is error free

 

10:53:27 AM Terry Freedman says: a book made out of a blog

 

10:53:29 AM Sharon Peters says: blogs usually are more user-generated for journaling

 

10:53:30 AM Claudia Ceraso says: My vote to combination of online and offline sources

 

10:53:31 AM Terry Freedman says: plus wiki text books

 

10:53:34 AM Durff says: beauty of a wiki

 

10:53:34 AM Regina Stewart says: wikipedia already has lots of content discribed as well as texbooks and the kids google the topic before they open a textbook

 

10:53:44 AM Joseph Miller says: great idea..wikis

 

10:53:50 AM Joseph Miller says: should our curriculum be a wiki?

 

10:53:59 AM Durff says: mine is

 

10:54:05 AM coordinatortwo says: wikitext

 

10:54:06 AM Durff says: google docs

 

10:54:08 AM Sharon Peters says: I was all about wikis last year with my students - we used them for so many tasks

 

10:54:17 AM Joseph Miller says: if our curriculum were a wiki should students have edit capability?

 

10:54:17 AM Terry Freedman says: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page

 

10:54:18 AM David Jakes says: Back in, had to teach my workshop

 

10:54:18 AM Durff says: we too

 

10:54:25 AM Sharon Peters says: google docs are great too - but had limitations on my school campus

 

10:54:31 AM Terry Freedman says: Joseph, you could set permissions

 

10:54:38 AM Durff says: see the "Feed Jakes" everyone

 

10:54:48 AM Jeff Lewis says: I love the point that keeps coming up: It is okay to make mistakes, they will lead us to better (best) practices

 

10:54:59 AM Joseph Miller says: @Jeff...definitely

 

10:55:05 AM coordinatortwo says: start a wiki as an outline of curriculum to be "discovered" and have students add content throughout the semester

 

10:55:05 AM Regina Stewart says: it's hard to incorprorate everyone's opions on what should be in the curriculum when the district wants CSAP to dictact curriculum

 

10:55:15 AM Sharon Peters says: @millerjtx - I let my students have permission ot edit for just about everything - becuase you can check the history - they never abused that privilege

 

10:55:17 AM Emily Taylor says: @jeff, joe-The more mistakes we make, the more we learn!

 

10:55:27 AM Durff says: amen

 

10:55:36 AM David Jakes says: @durff....you never stop do you

 

10:55:38 AM Durff says: the teachable moment

 

10:55:43 AM Durff says: nope

 

10:55:43 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren is talking about the Karl Fisch video, seen by 6m people

 

10:55:49 AM Sharon Peters says: @jose - great idea - and wikis are fantastic for global projects

 

10:55:56 AM Terry Freedman says: Sharon, do u have the link?

 

10:56:03 AM Sharon Peters says: the link for??

 

10:56:09 AM Terry Freedman says: karl fish video

 

10:56:10 AM Joseph Miller says: we remixed using our content

 

10:56:16 AM Durff says: Horizon Project

 

10:56:22 AM Joseph Miller says: all GL on this chat have seen

 

10:56:23 AM Sharon Peters says: one sec - am showing it off next week at a pres

 

10:56:24 AM Durff says: on a wiki

 

10:56:33 AM Durff says: shhh

 

10:56:33 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren is showing the UK version

 

10:56:47 AM Durff says: there is more than one?

 

10:56:55 AM Joseph Miller says: these slides won a contest on slideshare.net

 

10:57:09 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Yes, Durff. I have the links.

 

10:57:13 AM Callie Brownlee says: I love the part that keeps coming that says students will be a big part with techonolgy working in the classroom! :D

 

10:57:15 AM Durff says: you know...we are creating history here

 

10:57:19 AM Sharon Peters says: Did you know 2.0 - latest version - http://youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U

 

10:57:22 AM janstearns says: Heard that. Can understand why they won on Slideshare

 

10:57:51 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Great video to show other teachers in your buildings! To get them on board with Global Learning

 

10:58:06 AM Durff says: yes

 

10:58:15 AM Durff says: workshop opener

 

10:58:23 AM Joseph Miller says: someone took Fisch's slides and reworked with enhanced images

 

10:58:23 AM coordinatortwo says: or closer

 

10:58:24 AM Sharon Peters says: yes - am showing it as opener

 

10:58:28 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren: worlds knowledge is doubling every 3 days

 

10:58:32 AM Joseph Miller says: but, the content kills in the video

 

10:58:36 AM Terry Freedman says: is that true? doesn't sound feasible

 

10:58:44 AM Terry Freedman says: someone must be blogging a lot!

 

10:58:51 AM Sharon Peters says: I really like the last version - not sure you are seeing same

 

10:59:05 AM Sharon Peters says: the one Scott McLeod redid recently??

 

10:59:10 AM Terry Freedman says: I actually think it's a terrible video

 

10:59:11 AM Durff says: how do you measure that terry?

 

10:59:18 AM Terry Freedman says: thx for link Sharon

 

10:59:25 AM Joseph Miller says: why terrible?

 

10:59:40 AM drewpalmerwsu says: Worksheets... vs. Online blogging...

 

10:59:40 AM Durff says: i wish we had audio

 

10:59:43 AM Sharon Peters says: and my other fave is the web is us/using us

 

10:59:44 AM janstearns says: A link to Karl's post with links to other sources for the video, in case you cant get to Youtube: http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2007/06/did-you-know-20.html

 

10:59:50 AM Terry Freedman says: because what is the point of using screencast technology to show a load of words on a screen that I could read a lot quicker if they were on a page?

 

10:59:52 AM Durff says: now that would be interactive

 

11:00:06 AM Joseph Miller says: the web is us/ing us is great too

 

11:00:07 AM Terry Freedman says: I can't multitask cos there is no commentary

 

11:00:08 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Some links I collected about Karl Fisch vid http://claudiaceraso.pbwiki.com/Educational+Needs

 

11:00:14 AM Terry Freedman says: it's a step back 20 years

 

11:00:23 AM Durff says: what is

 

11:00:29 AM Durff says: what we do now?

 

11:00:48 AM Terry Freedman says: The web is using us is another example of total rubbish masquearding as profundity

 

11:00:49 AM Sharon Peters says: I think the screencast effect is powerful

 

11:00:51 AM Terry Freedman says: IMHO

 

11:01:08 AM Regina Stewart says: waht is imho

 

11:01:10 AM Terry Freedman says: it's a powerful waste of time

 

11:01:17 AM Terry Freedman says: in my humble opinion

 

11:01:21 AM Durff says: it makes people think critically...

 

11:01:34 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren is playing a video, but didn't catch what it is

 

11:01:38 AM Durff says: isn't that the point?

 

11:01:40 AM Terry Freedman says: it's about college Spanish

 

11:01:47 AM Joseph Miller says: 5 minute eniversity

 

11:01:51 AM Joseph Miller says: university

 

11:02:00 AM Durff says: practice your spanish terry

 

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11:02:12 AM Sharon Peters says: the 5 minute university is HILARIOUS

 

11:02:16 AM Durff says: hi darren

 

11:02:20 AM Joseph Miller says: Father Guido Sarducci

 

11:02:23 AM Sharon Peters says: yes

 

11:02:24 AM Terry Freedman says: do u have the link Shgaron?

 

11:02:28 AM Terry Freedman says: Sharon*

 

11:02:31 AM Darren Draper says: Hello all. Thanks, Terry.

 

11:02:33 AM Terry Freedman says: please share

 

11:02:35 AM Sharon Peters says: will find

 

11:02:41 AM Terry Freedman says: thx, u are a star

 

11:02:45 AM Joseph Miller says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4

 

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11:03:13 AM Terry Freedman says: Thanks, Joseph

 

11:03:29 AM Darren Draper says: I *love* Father Guido. Been a fan since SNL.

 

11:03:39 AM Joseph Miller says: Darren, welcome!

 

11:03:40 AM Terry Freedman says: never heard of him before

 

11:03:45 AM Joseph Miller says: he is genius

 

11:03:57 AM Durff says: yea, a comedian here

 

11:03:58 AM Terry Freedman says: must check him out

 

11:04:26 AM Durff says: has your sense of humor - dry

 

11:04:37 AM Joseph Miller says: key: what will your students remember in 5 years?

 

11:04:44 AM Durff says: wow

 

11:04:46 AM Terry Freedman says: me I hope

 

11:04:47 AM Terry Freedman says: LOL

 

11:04:48 AM Durff says: so true

 

11:04:56 AM Callie Brownlee says: It's funny, 'cause it's the truth.......

 

11:05:01 AM Emily Taylor says: what do you remember from your education?

 

11:05:07 AM Durff says: or the virtual activities we facilitate?

 

11:05:12 AM Terry Freedman says: the best teachers and the worst

 

11:05:20 AM Dave Tarwater says: recess, lunch, and sports

 

11:05:24 AM Joseph Miller says: Learning how to learn--my mentor Lewis Binford taught me everything

 

11:05:26 AM Darren Draper says: The good teachers and the bad teachers are what I remember. Very little of the in-between.

 

11:05:29 AM Durff says: the tree outside the upper elementary school

 

11:05:33 AM wrobinson72 says: Last school year I had my students type up their favorite learing experiences from the year- it was surprising- they really remember projects and competition

 

11:05:48 AM Durff says: yup

 

11:05:50 AM Terry Freedman says: They are taking a break

 

11:05:53 AM Darren Draper says: I never learned how to learn until I was in college.

 

11:05:56 AM Durff says: that is what is memorable

 

11:05:59 AM Terry Freedman says: (beer)

 

11:06:05 AM Joseph Miller says: those of you not here: here is darren's intor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx9jJk0EHPY

 

11:06:08 AM Dave Tarwater says: I am still learning how to learn

 

11:06:14 AM Emily Taylor says: me too!

 

11:06:17 AM Darren Draper says: Me, too.

 

11:06:20 AM Joseph Miller says: we are on 15 minute break

 

11:06:25 AM Durff says: me too

 

11:06:28 AM Terry Freedman says: I will stay connected so that everything gets recorded, but I may disappear

 

11:06:32 AM Durff says: when i get there tell me

 

11:06:42 AM Darren Draper says: Joseph, you're there in person. Terry, are you or are you managing from the UK?

 

11:06:49 AM Joseph Miller says: here in person

 

11:06:56 AM Terry Freedman says: I am managing from my home in UK

 

11:06:57 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Buenos Aires!

 

11:06:59 AM Durff says: where are you darren?

 

11:07:09 AM Darren Draper says: SLC, UT, USA

 

11:07:11 AM Joseph Miller says: the video is non-edited, so please understand

 

11:07:18 AM John Protsman says: his presentation ended for a break, we're in denver, co

 

11:07:19 AM Darren Draper says: understandable.

 

11:07:19 AM Durff says: utah?

 

11:07:24 AM Darren Kuropatwa says: Hi Folks! Jjust finished up. Taking 1`5 min. break. I love you guys! Thanks for joining us!

 

11:07:25 AM Darren Draper says: Yes.

 

11:07:25 AM Joseph Miller says: Darren..you're with Jordan?

 

11:07:29 AM Darren Draper says: Yep.

 

11:07:39 AM Joseph Miller says: Love your website

 

11:07:49 AM Darren Kuropatwa says: You know everyone's name better than I, but yeah, I am.

 

11:07:56 AM Darren Draper says: Thanks. We've worked hard on it, but it still needs some work.

 

11:08:06 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren, I couldn't find the links page on the wiki. do u have the URL?

 

11:08:09 AM Joseph Miller says: I always send people to Jordan's ed tech site as a great example

 

11:08:10 AM Durff says: so how can we so this with sound the next time?

 

11:08:15 AM Darren Kuropatwa says: Darren signing off but don't let me stop you. Cheers!

 

11:08:20 AM Joseph Miller says: Darren, Great job!

 

11:08:26 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Cheers Darren

 

11:08:27 AM Terry Freedman says: Durff: I am recording the sound

 

11:08:37 AM Durff says: you techies out there think on that

 

11:08:43 AM Durff says: great

 

11:09:00 AM Durff says: but i mean like streaming it live terry

 

11:09:10 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren will add it to slideshare, and it could become a podcast

 

11:09:13 AM Durff says: gee, terry could do that

 

11:09:25 AM Sharon Peters says: we need to do more synchronous webcasts, I agree Durrff

 

11:09:26 AM Terry Freedman says: well, hopefully after tomorrow nite I will know how!

 

11:09:27 AM Durff says: yews, after the fact

 

11:09:28 AM Darren Draper says: Very cool. I love it.

 

11:09:31 AM Sharon Peters says: hah!

 

11:09:40 AM Durff says: yo will terry

 

11:09:48 AM Terry Freedman says: a few people (10) were able to join me a skype conference call, so they can hear it live

 

11:09:52 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Thank you Terry for being the chatcast host!

 

11:09:55 AM Bud Hunt says: hello, again -- did I miss lots of good stuff?

 

11:09:56 AM Durff says: but i will never know how to type

 

11:10:11 AM Terry Freedman says: Bud, it's been summarised here

 

11:10:12 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Bud we are on a break now.

 

11:10:14 AM Darren Draper says: Hello, Bud. We were just posting to your new blog. :)

 

11:10:16 AM Durff says: hi bud

 

11:10:25 AM Bud Hunt says: hi, durff. darren.

 

11:10:31 AM Bud Hunt says: MY new blog, huh?

 

11:10:42 AM Bud Hunt says: that's made me day, y'all.

 

11:10:43 AM Darren Draper says: Apparently.

 

11:10:47 AM Claudia Ceraso says: The "fakeblog", the prolific one you mean :)

 

11:10:55 AM Bud Hunt says: never been parodied before. That's very . . . .um . . .. meta.

 

11:11:03 AM Durff says: the fake bud?

 

11:11:06 AM Darren Draper says: Spock-like, if you ask me.

 

11:11:10 AM Dave Tarwater says: @alll learners here is the wiki Darren created for his visit with us http://acsd14.pbwiki.com/ the password is acsd14

 

11:11:30 AM Terry Freedman says: Thanks, Dave

 

11:11:32 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Ciberparody so 2 point oh-ish

 

11:11:33 AM Durff says: thank you

 

11:11:36 AM Terry Freedman says: I'm hungry

 

11:11:54 AM Terry Freedman says: (coffee)(^)

 

11:11:57 AM Bud Hunt says: thanks, terry, for hosting - is there another session or is this the post show?

 

11:12:12 AM Dave Tarwater says: @freedman, wish you were here in Colorado to share out breakfast goodies

 

11:12:24 AM Terry Freedman says: well, I am keeping the line open so that Darren's next session will be recorded too)

 

11:12:32 AM Bud Hunt says: Ohh .. . .goodies?

 

11:12:34 AM Terry Freedman says: lol @ Dave

 

11:12:38 AM Bud Hunt says: Worth a half hour in the car?

 

11:12:43 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Do I hear Argentina on the room audio? That must be me...

 

11:12:50 AM Terry Freedman says: I think Joseph Miller might be recording, not sure

 

11:12:56 AM Darren Draper says: Yes, Terry. Thanks for hosting. Next session starts at 1:30 MT?

 

11:13:52 AM Darren Draper says: Or 11:30?

 

11:13:58 AM Terry Freedman says: cheers, Darren

 

11:14:03 AM Durff says: wiki won't let me loog in

 

11:14:06 AM Terry Freedman says: I have 11.30 Denver time

 

11:14:09 AM Terry Freedman says: http://acsd14.pbwiki.com/Whiplash!

 

11:15:00 AM Bud Hunt says: Looks like whiplash is coming up in a few

 

11:15:08 AM Bud Hunt says: get ready for some fast movin' tools

 

11:15:29 AM Terry Freedman says: Durff, u r right: it don't work

 

11:15:39 AM Durff says: i said that

 

11:16:02 AM Terry Freedman says: I know, I just said u were right

 

11:16:15 AM Durff says: me? right? you're kidding

 

11:17:25 AM Terry Freedman says: Hey, if anyone wants to contact me, use skype name (efreedman), email (terry@ictineducation.org) or look at website (www.ictineducation.org) and sign up for newsletter or subscribe to RSS feed.

 

11:17:37 AM Terry Freedman says: I usually update site every day, but am having a break this week

 

11:17:56 AM Durff says: i got in to wiki w/ my PBidentity

 

11:17:59 AM Durff says: i think

 

11:18:13 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren: if you want to teach something, u have to model it.

 

11:18:23 AM Terry Freedman says: That's what I am always saying too!

 

11:18:31 AM Claudia Ceraso says: Terry, do you tweet? I'm fceblog on Twitter.

 

11:18:54 AM Terry Freedman says: yes, tweenname= www.twitter.com/terryfreedman (I think!)

 

11:19:26 AM Bud Hunt says: Is it wrong to listen to Darren during the break?

 

11:19:27 AM Terry Freedman says: Has everyone gone for tea? any feedback on all this stuff?

 

11:19:37 AM Durff says: i am

 

11:19:43 AM Terry Freedman says: I am hoping to garner good blackmailing material

 

11:19:51 AM Sharon Peters says: lol

 

11:19:54 AM Bud Hunt says: Oh, I am, too -- just wondering if I should feel guilty.

 

11:19:59 AM Dave Tarwater says: @all oops the password to http://acsd14.pbwiki.com/ is adams14 not acsd14

 

11:20:01 AM Durff says: sounds fun

 

11:20:02 AM Sharon Peters says: just remember it works both ways

 

11:20:04 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Bud I guess Darren knows the audio is still open. Or does he?

 

11:20:06 AM Terry Freedman says: but seriously, I think that as he has left his mic on, it is ok.

 

11:20:11 AM Darren Draper says: Guilt is for the weak. Like sleep.

 

11:20:13 AM Bud Hunt says: ok - good.

 

11:20:15 AM Sharon Peters says: can't hear a thing? should I?

 

11:20:21 AM Terry Freedman says: he isn't saying anything personal

 

11:20:25 AM Terry Freedman says: oh wait...

 

11:20:26 AM Sharon Peters says: @darren - LOL

 

11:20:28 AM Bud Hunt says: Darren D - I have lots of guilt. It's a useful tool.

 

11:20:35 AM Bud Hunt says: we're still listening.

 

11:20:39 AM Bud Hunt says: don't go to the restroom or anything.

 

11:20:44 AM Terry Freedman says: "Terry is one of the best and most brilliant people I know"

 

11:20:44 AM Durff says: ok in

 

11:20:48 AM Bud Hunt says: otherwise - leave it on.

 

11:20:49 AM Sharon Peters says: hah!

 

11:21:05 AM Terry Freedman says: there's more...

 

11:21:14 AM Terry Freedman says: "Unlike that Sharon Peters person"

 

11:21:29 AM Sharon Peters says: (punch)

 

11:21:35 AM Durff says: that is high praise terry

 

11:21:42 AM Durff says: no waqit

 

11:21:51 AM Durff says: i think sharon is brilliant

 

11:21:51 AM Terry Freedman says: trouble is, I can't get thru to Daz to tell him; I am sure it's ok tho

 

11:21:51 AM *** Bud Hunt added Joyce Valenza to this chat

 

***

 

11:22:05 AM Durff says: hi joyce

 

11:22:10 AM Terry Freedman says: Sharon is wonderful

 

11:22:16 AM Sharon Peters says: thaks Durff - nice to know a friend or two out there....

 

11:22:25 AM Sharon Peters says: hi Joyce!

 

11:22:26 AM Durff says: 8)

 

11:22:38 AM Durff says: unlike that Freedman character

 

11:22:41 AM Terry Freedman says: who is Joyce?

 

11:22:49 AM Terry Freedman says: ooh, yes

 

11:22:50 AM Durff says: famnmous person

 

11:22:54 AM Terry Freedman says: hi, Joyce

 

11:23:02 AM Terry Freedman says: hah

 

11:23:16 AM Bud Hunt says: not sure if she's here -- but she was seeking you, Terry. Thought I'd try to solve the problem.

 

11:23:22 AM Terry Freedman says: Bud, thx for adding joyce

 

11:23:31 AM Terry Freedman says: thanks, Bud

 

11:23:32 AM Durff says: what time is it there?

 

11:23:39 AM Terry Freedman says: many people seek me, but I am elusive

 

11:23:44 AM Terry Freedman says: where?

 

11:23:45 AM Darren Draper says: 11:23am

 

11:23:47 AM Durff says: where Darren is

 

11:23:52 AM Darren Draper says: Which one?

 

11:23:54 AM Darren Draper says: :)

 

11:23:57 AM Durff says: ah

 

11:24:01 AM Darren Draper says: JK. We're in the same time zone.

 

11:24:08 AM Bud Hunt says: It's the ocean, Terry. It's big.

 

11:24:09 AM Durff says: thanks the other one

 

11:24:15 AM Terry Freedman says: lol

 

11:24:20 AM Durff says: ok don't confuse me

 

11:24:22 AM Terry Freedman says: it is 18.24 here

 

11:24:29 AM Durff says: you owe me Darren

 

11:24:31 AM Claudia Ceraso says: GMt?

 

11:25:00 AM Terry Freedman says: I think this break is too long. Nobody needs more than 5 minutes, apart from ladies cos there is always a long line for their rest rooms

 

11:25:02 AM Darren Draper says: I'll let him know, Durff.

 

11:25:07 AM Durff says: no you

 

11:25:08 AM Terry Freedman says: I am in GMT + 1

 

11:25:15 AM Terry Freedman says: british summer time

 

11:25:17 AM Durff says: you're doing it again

 

11:25:19 AM Terry Freedman says: a misnomer if ever there was one

 

11:25:23 AM Durff says: quit that

 

11:25:33 AM Sharon Peters says: Ladies need time to put on their lipgloss - or at least I do... if the speaker is cute... I mean .... good

 

11:25:37 AM Terry Freedman says: who should quit what?

 

11:25:50 AM Terry Freedman says: Sharon put on her lip gloss for me

 

11:25:55 AM Terry Freedman says: (h)

 

11:26:02 AM Durff says: lipgloss? speak for yourself...you..WOWser

 

11:26:11 AM Durff says: not you terry

 

11:26:14 AM Sharon Peters says: lol

 

11:26:18 AM Bud Hunt says: Hmm . . .and this is when the conversation started to turn.

 

11:26:19 AM Terry Freedman says: lol

 

11:26:25 AM Durff says: yup

 

11:26:32 AM Terry Freedman says: yes, I am supposed to keep u all on track

 

11:26:34 AM Sharon Peters says: I thought Terry was sposed to keep us anchored??

 

11:26:34 AM Durff says: and downhill it rolled

 

11:26:35 AM Terry Freedman says: I am the Captain

 

11:26:37 AM Claudia Ceraso says: No lipstick necessary for chatcasting... another time-saving tool ;)

 

11:26:41 AM Terry Freedman says: I even bought myself a hat

 

11:26:49 AM Darren Draper says: brb - My daughter is begging me to play soccer. I'll try to make it back for Whiplash.

 

11:26:54 AM Durff says: the captain goes down with the ship

 

11:27:02 AM Terry Freedman says: Darren, u got 4 minutes

 

11:27:07 AM Durff says: hurry darren

 

11:27:09 AM Terry Freedman says: thx Durff

 

11:27:16 AM Terry Freedman says: I am starving

 

11:27:17 AM Durff says: welcome

 

11:27:21 AM Bud Hunt says: so which consultant is in charge here?

 

11:27:29 AM Terry Freedman says: consultant?

 

11:27:32 AM Durff says: i had an onion sandwich

 

11:27:38 AM Terry Freedman says: I am The Captain

 

11:27:47 AM Claudia Ceraso says: I having tuna sandwiches

 

11:27:48 AM Bud Hunt says: my mistake.

 

11:28:02 AM Durff says: i eat nothing w/ a smile

 

11:28:10 AM Terry Freedman says: here is another link, for the 2nd edition of Coming of Age:

 

11:28:19 AM Terry Freedman says: http://comingofage.ning.com

 

11:28:32 AM Terry Freedman says: ok, 1.5 mins to go before start of next session

 

11:28:32 AM Sharon Peters says: I had tuna too!

 

11:28:37 AM Durff says: why don't you publish it on Lulu?

 

11:28:41 AM Terry Freedman says: I bhad fish and chips

 

11:28:53 AM Claudia Ceraso says: @Sharon small word! No walls.

 

11:28:56 AM Terry Freedman says: Durff: that is one of the plans

 

11:29:04 AM Terry Freedman says: money will go to a good cause

 

11:29:13 AM Durff says: can we vote too on the whiplash wiki?

 

11:29:13 AM Terry Freedman says: (The Terry Freedman Retirement Fund)

 

11:29:21 AM Durff says: :)

 

11:29:24 AM Terry Freedman says: idk

 

11:29:37 AM Durff says: to where will the Freedman's retire?

 

11:29:57 AM Sharon Peters says: Canada, of course!

 

11:30:22 AM Durff says: i vote for Friedrichshafen

 

11:30:27 AM Terry Freedman says: lol

 

11:30:59 AM Bud Hunt says: I'm wearin' my neckbrace. Let's go.

 

11:31:13 AM Durff says: does it match your lipgloss?

 

11:31:16 AM Claudia Ceraso says: (be leaving you shortly. Must go to a class, but you'll see me online)

 

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